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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 1, 2017 12:35:41 GMT -5
Do we do these, or have any interest in doing them? Re: Hurricane Harvey Jon
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Post by Froggie on Sept 1, 2017 15:04:26 GMT -5
Sure Jon, any flights that you want.
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Post by Darren Elliott on Sept 1, 2017 17:06:48 GMT -5
We should have
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 1, 2017 18:55:45 GMT -5
What I meant was, do we do anything like this as a team. Sort of like: "I need 45 flights to ferry hurricane relief. Rally point is KDEN to pick up supplies. Delivery to KRND (Randolph AFB, Tx.)." Or some other location. Pax or freight could be picked up at Austin so there would be no deadheading. Just an idea. If some of it were to be done online, we could get our little airline in the flightsim news. Maybe?
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Post by tammy on Sept 1, 2017 19:23:05 GMT -5
I would be all for that!
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Post by Froggie on Sept 2, 2017 17:48:57 GMT -5
Email us any idea's that you have and we'll see what we can do. Remember you can fly what, when & where you want!
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Post by Darren Elliott on Sept 3, 2017 10:28:15 GMT -5
Funny thing we usually try to do things like that... This storm creeped up on us fast
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 3, 2017 19:16:30 GMT -5
That was my idea. I would assume that a hub manager would need to work out the logistics and the fine tuning? I had an idea that this could bring our pilots together in a sort of unity. None of it being manditory, just a volunteer thing to bring a bit of temporary cohesion to our motley group of pilots. A sense of purpose, if you will. When our manager says the required amount of flights for our volunteering pilots have been completed, all goes back to the way it was. If this is successful, it can pave the way for other endeavors in the future. Perhaps...?
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Post by Froggie on Sept 3, 2017 19:56:53 GMT -5
I am all for humanitarian flight's. My problem is time to plan the logistics. If you or anyone can come up with workable and realistic plans I will consider. It is up to FRG007 as SDO to decide and she has been very busy opening our new hub KPHL.
If you or anyone has viable plan - submit and maybe we can do awards for! I love the idea. Please, every, your contributions and submissions DO count here! We do it for you and your input matters!
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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2017 20:13:21 GMT -5
A project that I am wotking on will give awards to forum members on thier profiles and a pending award page. Most are humanitarian. While in the works, I suggest any flights you do for Harvey - put "Harvey Relief" into comment's of your PIREP. As of now, we will grandfather in all who do once my system is activated. I hope that is fair to all? As we are still new and not many members - it is not easy. We in management are working hard to build this site. We are just 7 months old and look at the great progress already! Hang in there - much is being worked on. Keep the ideas and suggestion flowing!
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Post by ashleyw on Sept 3, 2017 20:42:52 GMT -5
That was my idea. I would assume that a hub manager would need to work out the logistics and the fine tuning? I had an idea that this could bring our pilots together in a sort of unity. I agree. As stated above, your idea. Post your plans or PM to me. I am the lead SDO (Schedule Development Officer) this site and can use member input! Steve is working on an award system and page. We can't do it alone or as quick as many wish. We have jobs and real life that must come first, but we bust our rear's to give you all what you want. As Steve said "Post Harvey Relief"in comments of your PIREP and that will count toward future rewards. Troy is on medical LOA for now so just me, Steve, and Angie. We are constantly working between our jobs and the job of this VA that was supposed to be a hobby. Send to me by PM a plan you have in mind and I will be glad to assist in getting it posted for awards. we were aiming for awards anyhow as most VA's don'tt award! WE DO!
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 3, 2017 23:13:13 GMT -5
Halloo Steve! The awards are a nice touch, I wasn't expecting anything out of it though, just thought it would be kind of fun. I brought it up at my other VA, and it took off, so thought I would bring it up here. Working on finding ways to try and be helpful. I will try to come up with some kind of plan in the next day or so, got alot on my plate right now, so bear with me, please? Dear Ashley. Hmm... Where to begin. I sympathize with you workload-wise. I have a full time job, I am a father, a babysitter to my neice, I run a bike shop here in town, and I have all sorts of weird hobbies all vying for my time. If you need me to design the whole thing, you have but to ask. I did not feel it was my place to implement policy without consulting with the higher-ups first. I have never been in a hurry for anything where this VA is concerned. I realize people have lives outside flight sim, I am one of them. So why preach to the choir? I am asking the questions to see if there is interest, how much interest, and what kind of interest. It helps fine tune the project. One doesn't want too much structure, people feel hemmed in. On the converse, too little structure, and people start making assumptions, and you know where that leads! It's a fine line to walk, and usually there is something just waiting to pluck it about the time you find your balance. You stated that this was "supposed" to be a hobby. Is it no longer? Is there a way the load may be shared? I am fair to middlin with coming up with solutions to problems. Being the son of a farmer does have some advantages. Will you allow me to share with you my experience? I promise to offer insight if you need. I have no interest in "taking over", just in helping to smooth out wrinkles. You all do wonderful work, and I am envious of your ability to finagle enough time to make this work. You have my respect for that. As I told Steve, the awards are a nice touch. Much appreciated. But I am also here to help. Give me a few days, and I will try to come up with a flight plan design for Harvey relief flights. I will probably need to ask a bunch of questions. You up to the task? In service to this airline, Jon FRG013
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Post by ashleyw on Sept 4, 2017 0:05:29 GMT -5
I highly respect and admire your comments. and thanks! It's rare. If you are willing to work the plans - I will post them and nominate for award status. I am just bogged down deep with FRG004 on medical LOA. All help is needed as are more ACTIVE PILOTS! Angie and I work 10-12 hour shifts almost daily. In a bar scene, we can't do as much as we want and need. Anything you want to work on - when ready - submit and me or another admin will post. As for awards they are pending and FRG002 will get them posted as completed. It's only been 7 months but look how the site has grown! As of today six hubs and close to 2,000 routes.All on a site run by "girls"! HA I say! Every contribution is welcomed - NOT MONEY - but an effort to please us all as sim pilots! Real life must come first without a doubt. What we need are ACTIVE pilot's to help us grow. Your contribution will be recognized. I have 3 more hubs voted by you - our members -to finish and all suggestions wanted. If people want to see this VA live then they should help by telling friends. Thanks again kind words. Angir will like that.
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 4, 2017 12:02:37 GMT -5
Hey Ashley, the link to Philly does not work correctly. It takes you to Sydney. However you can access it by typing in the link directly. Jon FRG013
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Post by ashleyw on Sept 4, 2017 12:20:17 GMT -5
Hey Ashley, the link to Philly does not work correctly. It takes you to Sydney. However you can access it by typing in the link directly. Jon FRG013 Be specific please so that I can fix!EDIT: If you refer to the "bubble" link @ bottom of page, it should be fixed now. I thank you very much for pointing that out. Team work is great! All of you - If you spot errors - and you are likely too - Do the same and please report!
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 4, 2017 12:48:04 GMT -5
You got it, Thanks! Jon FRG013
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 4, 2017 12:48:24 GMT -5
You got it, Thanks! Jon FRG013
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 4, 2017 13:50:35 GMT -5
Two questions; Page 4 of the master list, Denver flight 1107, does not agree with the Denver flight list, flight 1107. Am I seeing an error, or am I reading something wrong?
Is there a way to search the master list for all flights going into a regional area (ex: All hub flights to Texas)?
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Post by jimmy on Sept 4, 2017 16:27:26 GMT -5
now from a mobile phone... Hey Ironhorse... dere is such a ting as PM, ya know.
EDIT by Mod FRG007
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Post by steve on Sept 4, 2017 17:19:18 GMT -5
Two questions; Page 4 of the master list, Denver flight 1107, does not agree with the Denver flight list, flight 1107. Am I seeing an error, or am I reading something wrong? Is there a way to search the master list for all flights going into a regional area (ex: All hub flights to Texas)? As far as I know there are no humanitarian flights set up as of yet. As for the CFL listing all of our routes - just do the search / find feature. If not listed then fly what you want and PIREP the flight with "HARVEY"in the comments! As far as flight 1107 - the CFL and the posted list mach exactly so I don't understand your comment that they don't match? Download the current version that was posted yesterday. It is labeled Ver.3 Ashley work her rear end to get things correct, but in this case I see that the web list matches the CFL file. If you see different then elaborate for us. We appriciate people informing us of mistakes but I see none here. Please post the CFL version that you are using. If not ver. #3 then you have outdated! Readind and knowing this forum can save much headache! SAny problems PM me or Ashley - Not public post. Thanks
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Post by ashleyw on Sept 4, 2017 17:33:26 GMT -5
I have also looked it over again. I don't understand how you are having problems when both forms mach 100% As Steve posted, please elaborate - give us details. As fot Harvey relief - fly what you want. We are too busy real eorld stuff to organize unless you want to submit a plan? If you have a plan I will post but I'm too busy to work on one at this time.
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 4, 2017 19:42:13 GMT -5
Yes, I see now that my list is out of date. So very sorry to have pissed everyone off. I also see that my other query goes unanswered. I ask these in public instead of pm so that others who MAY have a similar question may learn from our friendly banter. I have spent the better part of my holiday designing this relief flight. Did I not state that that was what I intended? Did I also not state that I would be asking alot of questions? Cripes! I realize now my list is out of date. Oops. I don't need to have my arse hauled over the coals every time I don't explain myself with enough crayons and my Big Chief tablet. If my list is out of date, just ask me to check please instead of getting all huffy about it. I have gone over the "updated" lists, and have gathered several airports which are suitable for delivering relief supplies. Those I have selected are as close to the action as possible without being too far from one of the route airports. This is to prevent as much dead-heading as possible. No payload=no profit. I have also gathered the flight numbers for each of the flights leading out of the areas to make it easier for Angie to keep the paperwork straight. I also got online to see where real life staging is taking place, to assist in "as real as it gets." Also looked to see if airports selected would be under too much delay for its use as a staging airport, or if it was having issues with the flooding. I then gathered Information to see if National Guard would be using civilian airports or military airports or both. More options. Once I get the last of this finished, where do I send the finished paperwork which is currently two plus pages long? Would you like a photo of the paperwork, or something else? All I have is a cell phone to do any online work, so my options are a bit limited. My apologies. Jon FRG013
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Post by Froggie on Sept 5, 2017 1:04:25 GMT -5
Nobody got huffy and nobody is mad. We just could not see what the problem was. You are doing great and can send to our sites email froggieair7@gmail.com Search depends of the spread sheet program you use. Search or find feature. You did good to post just as you did. Looking forwaed to seeing the flight set.
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Post by steve on Sept 5, 2017 8:17:27 GMT -5
It is understandable that you had the old version as the new was just posted. Can't wait to see the plan.
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Post by allen24 on Sept 5, 2017 10:27:03 GMT -5
Jon, I don't think anyone got mad at you. Most of us I believe can't wait to see and fly your missions when you post them.
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Post by Ironhorse on Sept 6, 2017 19:54:01 GMT -5
Ok. I have finished with what I have. I elected not to use military airports due to time constraints and with the threat of Irma looming over the horizon. If you like what I have done, let me know. Also with any improvements. All this is being done on a cell phone, as there is no internet availability here, just bear that in mind please.
What I have done is used currently available flights From our available hubs to get close to where supplies are needed. I have then listed the closest available semi-major airports to use as staging for supplies. You can short hop back to the [?other end of the flight airport?](I don't know what it is called). Where you can pick up pax or cargo for the return trip. This allows us to do a designated flight with only a short flight being "not Froggie Air" designated. I don't know these airports capabilities for aircraft type or where to find them, so you will either have to look that info up yourself, or use the "if I can land it there, it's capable." Approach. Be forwarned that the department of homeland security frowns upon the use of Klingon battle cruisers as "capable aircraft." Some airports have been intentionally left off due to current (as of two days ago) problems. Be it flooding, congestion or otherwise. Flights 1106,1107 KDEN TO KBRD and flights 1072,1073 KDEN TO KIAH.
As soon as the powers that be review and correct my mistakes, you may have at it. If you enjoy this, let me have suggestions for others, and I will TRY to accommodate them.
Thank you. Jon FRG013
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Post by Froggie on Sept 6, 2017 20:38:23 GMT -5
The following HARVEY Relief flights were submitted by FRG013-Jon C. Great job Jon and thank you! [/div] Harvey Relief flights to Texas:
Flights 1054, 1055 KDEN - KDFW Flights 1072, 1073 KDEN - KIAH suspended Flights 1106, 1107 KDEN - KBRD suspended Flights 2126, 2127 KMIA - KDFW Flights 4536, 4537 EGLL - KDFW Flights 6402, 6403 KPHL - KDFW
Suggested Airports to Stage supplies-Tx:
San Antonio KSAT Austin KAUS
Harvey Relief flights to Lousiana, Mississippi, Alabama:
Flights 1088, 1089 KDEN - KMSY Flights 2126, 2127 KMIA - KDFW Flights 6274, 6275 KPHL - KHSV Flights 6286, 6287 KPHL - KBHM Flights 6304, 6305 KPHL - KMOB Flights 6314, 6315 KPHL - KGPT Flights 6318, 6319 KPHL - KMSY Flights 6320, 6321 KPHL - KBTR Flights 6400, 6401 KPHL - KSHV
Suggested airports to stage supplies-La, Al, Ms.
Lake Charles, Lousiana KLCH Lafayette, Lousiana KLFT Baton Rouge, Lousiana KBTR
Intentionally left off all but one oversea flights as none of the others had a close enough direct connection.
Any questions, comments or otherwise, please let me know. This is the first one of these I have done, so I am sort of feeling around in the dark.
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Post by Troy W. on Sept 7, 2017 4:11:52 GMT -5
Looks good Jon and I may fly some of these. The sad fact is the victims of hurricane Irma are going to need the most help.
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