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Post by serge on Dec 30, 2020 14:58:21 GMT -5
hi pilots, during long time, i used to do hard landing, bounce, and often safe go around. recently figured out what was wrong in my landing techniques. At runway threshold, - keep ur speed to 1.2 or 1.3 stall speed and then reduce the thrust to Zero(idle). - then enter the runway in a rectangle formed by the runway width and 1 or 2 wingspan - once above the runway, maintain a step flight, 1 or 2 ft above ground and align on the center line - then u can be attempted to touch the ground but dont let the airplane dive (my mistake)- maintain the step flight with smooth pitch up effort until the airplane stall, keep an eye on the side to assess the ur height (loss of front visibility due to high pitch up) and minimize it. - at stall, keep nose up, 1 ft above or less, let the plane touch alone the ground. there wont be any bounce as the speed is too low and no hard landing as the ground is very close. At that moment, the airplane seems to have a very high pitch angle so some can fear to have a tail strike, but it is just an illusion. my big mistake is that i was trying to shorten the landing phase to touch the ground too earlier, let the plane fly above the runway until it is too slow to fly. hope this could help any other student pilot.
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Post by Darren Elliott on Dec 31, 2020 11:43:38 GMT -5
ya thats tough sometimes!!
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Post by Ironhorse on Dec 31, 2020 17:46:51 GMT -5
Hi Serge, Just curious, do you not use your "V" speeds to determine your approach, pattern, final and flair speeds? It has been years since my schooling, so my ability to remember the exact sequencing is subject to question, but the plane I learned on (1969 C150) my pattern and final descent speed was 75 or 70 knots. 40° flaps was not used until turning final. Power was at idle then, and your rate of descent was whatever was necessary to maintain your airspeed at that 70 knots. When the runway stopped looking like a rectangle, and started looking flat, you started your flair. Usually you could feel the aircraft approaching stall, and about the time your stall horn started to squawk, your rear gear were just kissing the pavement. Flair and touchdown are difficult (for me) to explain what all is happening, since so much is happening all at once, and I am drawing on memories that are a few decades old. But the picture in my mind of what the runway looks like with your plane sitting on it was my mental visual reference to flair shortly BEFORE it looked like that. Once you have that reference firmly affixed in your mind, it was fairly easy to "grease" your landings.
Now, flight sim landings? With a DC-3? That's a whole 'nuther story! 😄😄😄
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Post by serge on Jan 1, 2021 11:45:39 GMT -5
Hi Iron, yep there is constant speed to maintain from last turn to the flare. after last turn, flaps is set to all extended (and ldg gear extended if applicable), the airplane should be maintained in the descent slope with a constant speed (70 kt on my airplane). at flare (1 or 2 wingspan height), thrust is set to all reduced and the airplane trajectory is becoming a step flight with small height above runway. during this step flight, speed goes on decreasing so the angle of attack is constantly increased to maintain the step trajectory. Most of my issues at landing occurred during flare: i didnt wait for the speed to decrease enough, as soon as the airplane was in almost 0 vertical speed, i was attempted to touch the runway but most of the time the A/C speed is often still too high. so even if VS is almost negligible, the airplane touches the runway with lot of energy due to horizontal speed, that can create bounce in grass runway, or worst, the nose wheel can touch before main gear causing the propeller to hit the runway (instructor takes over before that...fortunately).
u can reproduce this behavior in flightsim, by setting all parameters to realistic and detect all crash conditions. it makes flying more difficult but it is good way to train for all future pilots in here:)
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Post by serge on Jan 14, 2022 6:51:29 GMT -5
Video of my landing in LFCL with 8kt side wind and high turbulence: not excellent but well... the airplane is not damaged
it was not easy to upload video too large files around hundreds of Megabytes so i tried to truncate time and image size.
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Post by Darren Elliott on Jan 16, 2022 9:42:00 GMT -5
Already subbed to you...nice video
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Post by devon on Jan 18, 2022 15:05:12 GMT -5
Cool video. Ever consider upgrading your sim serge? FS2004 is now 18 years old!
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Post by serge on Jan 23, 2022 7:49:22 GMT -5
yeah it is old but it is largely enough for flight training. I just need to invest more money in hardware(more screens and rudder) to improve the practice of flying ...in real flight, i often forgot to maneuver with rudder. that is really damaging the quality of landing. and also in cruise there always remaining effort on the stick that makes complicated the filling of flight log or modifying the switches on board.
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Post by Darren Elliott on Jan 23, 2022 15:25:52 GMT -5
it will come in time
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Post by serge on Feb 9, 2022 7:27:57 GMT -5
here's the complete video of landing LFCL:
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Post by Darren Elliott on Feb 9, 2022 9:29:23 GMT -5
nice one
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Post by serge on Mar 14, 2022 10:40:07 GMT -5
Flight circuit with downwind base final and landing, in real condition with crash detection+ xwind penalty and hi turb
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Post by Darren Elliott on Mar 14, 2022 13:38:07 GMT -5
nice video!!
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Post by serge on Mar 17, 2022 8:40:19 GMT -5
now my last try on engine loss procedure ...good point is pilot and plane are ok but this the worst engine loss , i have ever done . all pilots here ( Ironhorse) are going to laugh about it but well enjoy
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Post by Darren Elliott on Mar 18, 2022 8:01:09 GMT -5
Nice
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Post by jimmy on Mar 18, 2022 19:46:09 GMT -5
You stuck it
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Post by Darren Elliott on Mar 19, 2022 8:29:57 GMT -5
Hey welcome back jimmy
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Post by jimmy on Mar 19, 2022 19:12:31 GMT -5
Tanks
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Post by Ironhorse on May 2, 2022 18:12:48 GMT -5
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Try lowering your flaps sooner or crabbing if you feel you might overshoot the runway. As in real life, practicing proceedure will ultimately be your friend. Try saving the flight just after your engine fails, and if you don't like the results of your first landing (or not-landing), reload and try again until you are successful. Your videoing your flight is good. It allows you to see from different angles what you need to do to correct your mistakes, or improve on marginal successes. You'll do alright. Good luck!
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