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Post by ashleyw on Jan 6, 2018 9:11:28 GMT -5
I'm doing a flight for MAX on FSE under the Froggies Pond group. Do I also and this flight time to my Froggie Air since it is on FSE as a Froggie flight?
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Post by Froggie on Jan 6, 2018 15:59:55 GMT -5
I'm doing a flight for MAX on FSE under the Froggies Pond group. Do I also and this flight time to my Froggie Air since it is on FSE as a Froggie flight? Absolutely NO! Double logging is NOT ALLOWED! If you fly as FRG you file FRG ONLY I only allow FSE as it is not a VA and only if the flights are under the Froggie Group on FSE otherwise NO.
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Post by devon on Jan 6, 2018 20:36:09 GMT -5
I don't see what's wrong with double logging as if you have the second number of hours on two virtual air lines the you can just count the hours as if both were only one
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Post by Froggie on Jan 6, 2018 21:18:26 GMT -5
Not fair to active pilots. I will not accecpt time also posted to another VA nor will any VA accept hour posted to me! That is not fair to either VA nor is it fair to ACTIVE pilots. Anyone found to Dbl. log on Froggie air will have time revoked and may lead to removal from roster! There is no argument here. It IS NOT ALLOWED! PERIOD! If you want to log on another VA then go to that VA. Anyone found to have violated will be removed! NO EXCEPTIONS. Read the rules as posred on our website and these forums. FSE is allowed only brcause it is not a virtual airline and for time to count you must be a member of our group there! If any questions then ask before you fly. I will stand firm on this rule.
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Post by jimmy on Jan 7, 2018 0:46:28 GMT -5
Seems quite clear to me.
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Post by Troy W. on Jan 7, 2018 8:43:23 GMT -5
If we can file the Froggie FSE the I'll work that while doing the hop list.
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Post by tammy on Jan 7, 2018 12:15:44 GMT -5
I went to sign up at www.fseconomy.net/welcome and they said my IP has been banned. Allen tried too with same message. Neither of us has ever been there before in our lives!
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Post by ashleyw on Jan 7, 2018 12:38:06 GMT -5
Someone may have previously had your IP address. If you want, you may use my account. Our group is "Froggie's Pond" if you fly for that group you can PIREP the flights. See PM's for my login details.
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Post by devon on Jan 7, 2018 13:14:30 GMT -5
Lets say I belonged to 2 VA's. If I fly lets say 8.2 hours and I report it to both and I do that every time, I will have the same number of hours on both. Instead of combining the hours to make more, just count the hours on one
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Post by tammy on Jan 7, 2018 14:34:38 GMT -5
Thanks Ashley. I made you and the Pond over v$10,000- but I want my own accout to save and buy a plane.
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Post by ashleyw on Jan 7, 2018 14:52:20 GMT -5
Lets say I belonged to 2 VA's. If I fly lets say 8.2 hours and I report it to both and I do that every time, I will have the same number of hours on both. Instead of combining the hours to make more, just count the hours on one Absolutely not. As Froggie said that is "Double Logging" and is Not Allowed on ANY VA that we know of. I fly Froggie Air and MaxFreight - I do completely seperate flights and NEVER file a MAX with Froggie nor Froggie with Max - That can get you banned from both VA's! So keep that in mind. If you want combined hours, I suggest a Logbook (a free one is on our D/L page) or use www.flightmemory.com/ and it is also free and tracks many stats. Click my banner below to see just some of the info it records. But do not get caught Dbl. Logging - is instant ban here and at MaxFreight. Also, When I fly Froggie I use FRG007 when flying Max I use MAX607 just to be clear who I'm flying for.
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Post by ashleyw on Jan 7, 2018 14:57:30 GMT -5
Thanks Ashley. I made you and the Pond over v$10,000- but I want my own accout to save and buy a plane. I will contact the Admin. @ FSE and explain and let you know of any reply.
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Post by devon on Jan 7, 2018 16:04:03 GMT -5
I know it's not allowed Ash but if you only count the ours on one VA and disregard the other hours as if they weren't there then you'd be fine, just don't combine them
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Post by Froggie on Jan 7, 2018 16:12:18 GMT -5
Thanks Ashley. I made you and the Pond over v$10,000- but I want my own accout to save and buy a plane. I will contact the Admin. @ FSE and explain and let you know of any reply. Tammy, As the admin of Froggie's Pond FSE group - I have emailed the admin's. there and ask them to allow you. When I get a reply either Ashley or myself will PM you. In the meantime, if you use Ashley's account please note on yor PIREP's. We will inform you immediately.DMSDrummer - Ashley and I have made the rule clear. There is no Double-logging allowed. Not here nor any virtual airline. I reccomend you use Flight Memory if you want to do multiple VA's as there you can separate your VA' statistics. It is very user friendly and tracks many stats. Just click any Flight Memory banner on this site - including mine to get to the free site. I will not back down from this rule and I do check with MaxFreight and other VA's to verify. Also, you are welcome to join our FSE Group so we can make virtual money to buy our own planes and maybe an FBO! Jimmy - Just wanted to throw
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Post by steve on Jan 7, 2018 21:35:45 GMT -5
I don't see what's wrong with double logging as if you have the second number of hours on two virtual air lines the you can just count the hours as if both were only one Your not getting it are you? You fly one plane at a time - one flight. MaxFreight as I believe you are a member? You fly that one flight for them you file for them and them only. I was a manager at MaxFreight for 8 years and if I saw you post the same flight to my hub and to a different VA for the same flight I would be forced to refuse the PIREP and issue a termination warning. NO VA known will allow double logging! As you are no longer (sadly) a Froggie Air pilot it does not matter I guess. Angie allows FSE if on our group as it is not a VA. If you don't want to fly Froggie Air, that is fine you are welcome to re-join and or join our FSE group but don't expect Roy to accept your PIREP's at MaxFreight! He will not nor will we accept Max PIREP's. Yes we do check member known VA's for such activity, I hope this clarifies. If you want to join FSE (free) and our group you are welcome to whether a Froggie Air pilot or not. You are also welcome to re join Froggie Air at any time! We have no rule against multipl VA's as long as flight are not the same! As was posted above. it sounds like you may want www.flightmemory.com it's the best and it's free! You may also post you stats banner here in the forums like Angie and I do! What ever you decide - don't double log or you may get banned from both VA's!!! Good luck
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Post by allen24 on Jan 7, 2018 21:55:37 GMT -5
I also fly Max Freight but would never even think about PIREP the same flights both airline. When flying Froggie Air I am FRG005 when flying Max Freight I fly as MAX907. Period - no confusion!
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